Julianna Holden " Taking the "Magic" Out of Energy Work" August 2006

 

From: Ted Nissen [questions@anatomyfacts.com]

Sent: Mon 8/28/2006 3:42 PM

To: julianna@corerelease.com

Subject: RE: Hands emit light article

 

I will wait to reply to your E-Mails until I see that you are online with the group. Just let me know. Thanks Ted

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Julianna Holden [mailto:julianna@corerelease.com]

Sent: Sun 8/27/2006 4:38 PM

To: questions@anatomyfacts.com

Subject: Regarding the case studies

 

Hi Ted,

 

I'm pretty impressed with the way you've compiled all of this

information, making it easy for research to take place. Time consuming

for most people, but for those interested in reporting results, it is a

big time saver. You do this in your spare time? Do you have funding for

the work you're doing?

 

Thanks,

Julianna

 

From: Ted Nissen [questions@anatomyfacts.com]

Sent: Mon 8/28/2006 3:17 PM

To: julianna@corerelease.com

Subject: RE: Review of Literature

 

 

Yes Julianna I'm only compiling the database for the massage therapy profession. It is an access database on my computer. It includes links to full text articles when available but as you state most of these cost. I would like to develop an online searchable database but lack the computer skills. I can and have published a listing online but this is not searchable. You should have the link to my literature review Web page. http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Muscle/litreview.htm I can and will include articles you locate in biophysics or otherwise because it impacts on our profession. Energy work is a viable medical massage modality even if it can't be proven that energy transfer exists. Much of the soft tissue techniques in orthopedic massage are it least in my limited knowledge mostly unproven as well. It is not fair but energy work is probably held at a higher standard simply because it strains concrete reasonable thinking. Just because it strains reason does not mean it isn't real. On the other hand science demands that we all be humble. As you know in this imperfect world, humility is sometimes in short supply. We should all strive to be better.

 

There are some free databases Pedro http://www.pedro.fhs.usyd.edu.au/index.html and  http://www.openarchives.org/. I believe there are others but haven't had time to research.

 

Ted

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Julianna Holden [mailto:julianna@corerelease.com]

Sent: Sun 8/27/2006 4:27 PM

To: questions@anatomyfacts.com

Subject: Review of Literature

 

 

Hi again,

 

I just read your Review of Literature article. It's really frustrating

when you can't get your hands on the original research. That's what

happened to me, as I explained. But my physicist friend sometimes has

access to full articles free, and he suggested that I just write the

researcher, which I did. Most researchers are eager to send you their

articles. I'm not sure, but it seems to me that they'd be happy to have

it published in another database.

 

Do I understand you correctly, that you're the only one compiling the

database for the MTF? That would confuse me a bit but understandable as

these are only volunteer positions.

 

Julianna

 

From: Ted Nissen [questions@anatomyfacts.com]

Sent: Mon 8/28/2006 10:03 AM

To: julianna@corerelease.com

Subject: RE: Hands emit light article

 

 

Hi Julianna,

 

I am beginning to read your E-Mails. Please send me the analysis of your physicist friend, as I am reluctant to fork out $30. Thanks for your, as usual, thoughtful reply. This "Ultra-weak photon emission" can be measured by a German made detector. Therefore it should be possible to show whether or not the intention of a healer has an effect of the photon emission in their own hand. Since this photon detector also can image and detect disease it should also be possible to determine if the intention of a healer then has an effect on the diseased tissue such as cancer cells. As this technology has been around by some reports for the last 15 years the research has most likely been done. A complete literature review (database searches ect.) needs to be completed. I do not currently have the time to do this. This is where interns would come in handy. I will try to find out who makes this equipment.

 

In any case this research if it exists and shows positive findings, would be a clear way for energy workers (which by your definition is anyone who has the intention to heal) to establish a scientific basis for their work. It would also make potent your warning to all those working on clients to be aware of their focused attention.

 

Currently the political climate is such that in most states except Washington and Florida major medical insurance will not cover massage therapy. If our collective income is to increase it behooves all of us to gather and or produce research, which demonstrates the efficacy of what we do and that includes energy work. It is likely that if we don't other competitive professions (I won't name names) will move to eliminate insurance coverage of massage even in states where it is currently covered.

 

Most M.D.'s I know believe that energy work is effective because of hypnotic induction and suggestion. Julianna I know that you with all of your heartfelt conviction and experience will object to this idea. Doctors, and I myself I fear, though will simply have to be banged over the head with science. This is as it should be and is part of the scientific method. The same debate erupted in a spirited discussion in the editorial pages of JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) in 1998. I am completing a list of all of the "letters to editor" on this heated debate (along with the actual letters) if you are interested I will forward.

 

Doctors also remember the story of one of their own Mesmer who was also physician. I have researched and written about Mesmer if you’re interested. http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Muscle/franklin.htm I have also written about the scientific method http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Muscle/criticalthinking.htm. This article serves as a warning to those who hold fixed ideas as truth. That means all of us. If you have a cherished belief be prepared with new scientific discoveries to give it up and or have it validated. I intend to write another article on the scientific method with a detailed description of what it is and what it means to body workers. My intention here is evolve the profession with a better understanding of science, anatomy and physiology. Understanding science has the very practical application of affecting our pocketbook, as aforementioned. We are collectively (massage therapists) not used to thinking scientifically. It just takes a little exposure and practice. WE ARE ALL SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND SCIENCE. It does take a willingness to learn and that’s all.

 

I would like to publish our communication to a medical massage therapist E-Mail Group. This discussion between us would be valuable for them, I think. Please let me know if that’s OK. I don't run this group but if you are interested in joining you can apply at; http://www.medicalmassagealliance.com/

 

I will continue to read the rest of your E-Mails as time permits. Your ideas are very valuable to me. Thanks.

 

Ted

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Julianna Holden [mailto:julianna@corerelease.com]

Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:04 PM

To: questions@anatomyfacts.com

Subject: Hands emit light article

 

 

Hi Ted,

 

Sorry, I haven't been ignoring your email, I've just been very busy.

Here is the article that hands emit light:

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050905/handlight.html

 

However, it is a badly written article that really doesn't say "much" -

but enough to make me aware it's being researched. The reference they

cited does not even give the issue the original research appeared, so I

researched it and found it costs $30 just to see the article. Being that

the article seems badly written, it's typical that most people don't

really draw the right conclusions or are too lazy to really state things

accurately - an employee staff writer for something like the Discovery

Channel isn't really paid to think but to impress so that people will

read or view.

 

Here is where the original abstract is located: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TH0-4G9GNC5-1&_user=10&_handle=V-WA-A-W-AB-MsSAYWA-UUA-U-AACEBAVAEU-AACZYEVEEU-YYDBUEDA-AB-U&_fmt=summary&_coverDate=08%2F01%2F2005&_rdoc=13&_orig=browse&_srch=%23toc%235268%232005%23999199997%23602184!&_cdi=5268&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=581a9ae81f77ff363c60942e33c2bce6

 

I wrote to one of the researchers, a physicist in Japan, to try to

obtain the article since obtaining it by that website is $30. He

answered me within 15 minutes with a copy of his research. I'm unable to

decipher what it all means, it's very scientific. So I've asked my

physicist friend to decode it for me. hehe I would be happy to forward

it to you if you're interested.

 

My own personal view about bodywork is that it doesn't mean diddly what

modality is used, so much as the intent we have for our client, and our

intuitive ability to work on an area that needs help. Intent is such a

big issue to me, and how can one prove intent has any results at all. So

to see that a chemical response from the practitioner may send photons

to the recipient (I'm taking huge leaps of poetic license here, the

article does not imply that) might be a key to some of the mystery. We

know that the human mind can direct its own thoughts for positive

changes through biofeedback. So how would our thoughts act on another

person? We can relate that spiritually to "we are all one" but there is

no validation for that, either.

 

Transference-counter transference is a documented effect in bodywork,

meaning the thoughts of one or the other act on the other. But I don't

think we know what the mechanism is for this occurrence. I believe that

without a contemplative life, where we attempt to clear up our own

issues so we don't transfer them to our client, is paramount. Many would

not agree with me, but I have seen results from muddied work so often.

I'm highly selective about who I allow to work on me, because I have

been affected in negative ways by "unconscious" people. Because we place

our hands on others, it makes our branch of healthcare much different

and requires a higher degree of sensitivity.

 

For example, I once had a teacher of trigger point. His motto was, no

pain, no gain. He was a former police officer and pretty unconscious (of

course, this was my own personal estimation). To him, it was all about

the body. Another student was working on me, and he approached. I told

him to stay away from me, I did not want him to touch me. Well, I was

naked under a sheet and no way I could walk away. He proceeded to show

the other student how to do trigger point on me. It made me holler loud.

This was an outright assault. Many wouldn't think so, but he went beyond

my personal boundary and it was very painful, leaving bruising. He would

claim that the bruising was not bruising at all but a lactic acid

release. (Yes, I know this is BS) To this day I don't appreciate it. If

I were to write about that experience, without mentioning his name even,

many people in the AMTA in Washington state would know exactly whom I

speak. It would rock the boat and I'm not so sure I'm willing to do

that, being that word travels fast among our profession.

 

Because the issue of intent and conscious direction is one of my main

focuses, I want research to cite that supports energy work. The fact

this whole issue is sidestepped in massage school is what troubles me.

Energy work is not really validated in standard massage school. They

teach techniques, that is their business. I want energy work to be more

than a belief system. I want it to stand side by side along techniques -

and I feel you can't only have a technique, you must have a rounded

education. And on the other hand, whenever I see Reiki or other energy

work advertised, it's only as an adjunct, and usually spoken about in

such mysterious ways. It concerns me.

 

I also believe that vibrational medicine is the "wave" (pun intended) of

the future. Imagine my delight when I saw that they measure photons -

light from hands. In the research, they noticed the photons decreased

when hands became cold. It's such an ordinary occurrence (to me) for

hands to super heat in energy work. They used mineral oil to achieve

greater conductance. My hands often become moist when doing bodywork,

something that always bothered me. But I have no control over it nor the

temperature of my hands. But it may explain now why that occurs.

 

Ok, enough about my philosophy. I will read the other article links you

sent as time permits.

 

Have a great day!

 

Julianna

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Ted Nissen [questions@anatomyfacts.com]

Sent: Tue 8/22/2006 12:45 PM

To: julianna@corerelease.com

Subject: RE: Re "Taking the "Magic" Out of Energy Work" article by Julianna Holden, LMP Massage Today magazine August 2006

 

 

Hi Julianna

 

Here is another online research study you can complete. Links to the instructions are on the form.

http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Forms/casestudy.htm

 

Please let me know what you think of these studies so far.

 

Thanks for your consideration, Ted

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Ted Nissen [questions@anatomyfacts.com]

Sent: Sun 8/20/2006 7:10 PM

To: julianna@corerelease.com

Subject: RE: Re "Taking the "Magic" Out of Energy Work" article by Julianna Holden, LMP Massage Today magazine August 2006

 

 

Hi Julianna,

 

Thanks for your thoughtful and friendly reply. Yes it was a dissertation wasn't it. Maybe that's why my mother called me "mouthy" what do you think? It does however encourage respectful discussion between colleagues which we need more of. I do want research. If you would like to do some home grown research I have some online research you can try. You can do it on yourself or clients. Just substitute digital pressure for energy work. You can lay hands on or off yourself or the subject. If you have questions just ask. Also please provide me with the references for the research you mentioned if you have it. (research in biophysics that is proving that hands emit light, photons). So far in the sample of 300 + of the 3700+ of research articles in massage done since 1917 I haven't found any thing which would match your description. http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Muscle/litreview.htm

 

This is the link for the online research.

 

Protocol (Process) (The red indicates how long it should take to complete each step)

1.) Click this link Plantar Foot Study http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Forms/plantarfoot.htm

2.) Print the form from your browser usually by going to the file menu and clicking print. Also click the instructions button on the online form for more printing instructions. (2 minutes)

3.) Read the treatment protocol instructions with the following link

Summary: http://www.anatomyfacts.com/muscle/clinical.htm#sum Detailed:

(http://www.anatomyfacts.com/muscle/clinical.htm#prot) Be sure to check the boxes yes or no that apply to you. Even if you would normally be excluded from the study you may try it as long as you have some tenderness (0-10) in the Achilles tendon. (5 minutes)

4.) Read the Subsequent Visit Protocol http://www.anatomyfacts.com/muscle/clinical.htm#svp (5 minutes)

5.) Use the form to record your treatment sessions. (1st visit and subsequent visit pre & post treatment ratings.) Six Visits=(30-60 minutes)

1.) Finish filling out the form online (copy information from paper to online form) including your identifying information. Plantar Foot Study http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Forms/plantarfoot.htm (3 minutes)

2.) Press the send button to send me the information. Be sure to put your E-Mail address otherwise the form won't be sent to me.

3.) Total Time= 45-75 Minutes

 

Published Results

 

The results (Statistical Number Crunching displayed in Graphical format and written analysis) will be published in subsequent E-Mails, and with the following link http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Muscle/researchpapers.htm A previous Plantar foot study can be viewed with this link. http://www.anatomyfacts.com/muscle/clinical.htm#pfs

 

Thanks for your genuine reply, Ted

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Julianna Holden [mailto:julianna@corerelease.com]

Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 5:02 PM

To: Ted Nissen

Subject: Re: Re "Taking the "Magic" Out of Energy Work" article by

Julianna Holden, LMP Massage Today magazine August 2006

 

 

Hi Ted,

 

I really appreciate all the references you have to energy work. It's

helpful to me.

 

But honestly, your review (rather, personal dissertation) seems to be

saying it's impossible to scientifically validate energy work so why

bother - just go ahead and practice it with all the hooey. I find this

rather humorous. I would think all healers would want scientific

validation. I guess I was wrong. =)

 

But apart from what you say, there is research in biophysics that is

proving that hands emit light, photons, and these do affect the other

person by touch and intention of the touch. It can and is being measured.

 

Thanks for taking the time to read my article and the large amount of

time you took to write a dissertation on the subject. =) And by the way,

I do have a series of Tibetan bowls and tuning forks and don't explain

them to my clients in scientific terms - and so I do practice it with

all the hooey. But I really do want that scientific research to happen.

It's what causes breakthroughs in human consciousness and acceptance. I

don't know about you, but I don't like being "only" in alternative

healthcare. Massage and energy work deserves to be mainstream.

 

Skepticism is an interesting thing. =) Or you know, in any field of

healthcare or science, there's sort of this competitive thing and

arrogance that really isn't necessary.

 

Julianna

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Ted Nissen [questions@anatomyfacts.com]

Sent: Sun 8/20/2006 3:58 PM

To: julianna@corerelease.com

Subject: Re “Taking the "Magic" Out of Energy Work” article by Julianna Holden, LMP Massage Today magazine August 2006

 

 

Ted Nissen wrote:

> Hi Julianna,

>

> As a courtesy I'm forwarding the link for my letter to the editor which I

> wrote to Massage Today magazine regarding your article entitled  " Taking

> the "Magic" Out of Energy Work" August 2006

>

> Review

Ø       http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Muscle/mteditorialholden.htm

>

> Article

Ø       http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/mt/article.php?id=13458

>

> Respectfully, Ted

>

> E-Mail=questions@anatomyfacts.com

 

-----Original Message-----

From: MedicalMassageAlliance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MedicalMassageAlliance@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ted Nissen

Sent: Sun 8/20/2006 11:39 AM

To: MedicalMassageAlliance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MedicalMassageAlliance] Letter to the Editor

 

 

This is the article I promised to review. Please let me know your thoughts?

 

Julianna Holden " Taking the "Magic" Out of Energy Work" August 2006

 

Review

http://www.anatomyfacts.com/Muscle/mteditorialholden.htm

 

Article http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/mt/article.php?id=13458

 

Sincerely Ted

questions@anatomyfacts.com

 

-----Original Message-----

From: MedicalMassageAlliance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MedicalMassageAlliance@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ted Nissen

Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:31 PM

To: MedicalMassageAlliance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MedicalMassageAlliance] Letter to the Editor

 

 

 

Thought someone might want to input ideas or write a letter to the editor of massage today magazine regarding this article by Julianna Holden, LMP August 2006 “Taking the "Magic" Out of Energy Work” Massage Today Magazine http://www.massagetoday.com/mpacms/mt/article.php?id=13458.

If you are interested let me know. You can just write down your reaction to the article and I can incorporate in a letter to the editor. Share with the group or E-Mail me directly. questions@anatomyfacts.com

 

Thanks Ted